Why Prop. 8 supporters are bigots
Nov 25 2008, Written by Danny Lewin in Backpages,Backtalk, 3 Comments
Please note: Title intentionally inflammatory to increase readership. In fact, the point of this is to try to provide a more well-reasoned attack on Proposition 8 than we usually see. Liberals, myself included, have expressed a generally unintelligible ire over Prop 8 while conservatives generally sound reasoned and principled on the subject. I think a proper analogy is asking the man who’s just been stabbed in the gut to perform an oratory on the evils of assault. We’re just too angry and wounded to do it, and it looks like the rationale should be obvious. Let me try to parse it out in a bit more methodical way than just “YOU CAN’T DO THAT!”.
The right for the government to curtail people’s sexual choices in their private lives is self-evident. You can’t have sex with children, you can’t have sex with someone who doesn’t consent, you can’t sell your own body for sex, etc. There’s no fundamental philosophical rule behind any of these rules. Kant doesn’t say kids aren’t okay but people of your gender are, and Locke doesn’t contend that there’s some fundamental rule that says same-sex marriage is wrong, but heterosexual marriage is right. It’s indefensible to claim that the government can’t restrict a person’s private sexual choices, and that’s true for both sides of the aisle.
An applicable analogy: strong defenders of the second Amendment often decry assault weapons bans because the government shouldn’t abridge anyone’s right to bear arms. It stands to reason that they should also allow a private actor to build his own nuclear weapon, as barring that would violate the sacrosanct second amendment. No one in their right mind would defend that, but it sort of disproves the notion that people really believe in a fundamental right for private entities to break the state’s monopoly on violence. They support the principle, but not its full enactment, because that would lead to total chaos. It’s about where you draw the line.
The same is true for private sexual choice, but it becomes a question of where we draw the line. Until 1967, it was drawn here: in 16 states, you could only marry someone of a different gender, but the same race. These states had centuries-old anti-miscegenation laws, backed by popular majorities, on the books. All 16 of these states’ laws fell when the Supreme Court ruled unanimously in Loving v. Virginia that anti-miscegenation violated the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment. Today, we all generally recognize that putting the line there was both arbitrary and wrong.
Whether it is wrong to restrict same-sex couples is apparently open for debate, but it is an untenable position to claim that it is not arbitrary. Some say it follows their religious convictions, and while the Bible does take a strong stance against homosexuality, here are a handful of Biblical passages that a philosophically sound Christian would also want to translate into law:
Malachi 2:16: “I hate divorce, says the Lord God of Israel.”
Exodus 22:16-17: “If a man seduces a virgin who is not pledged to be married and sleeps with her, he must pay the bride-price, and she shall be his wife. If her father absolutely refuses to give her to him, he must still pay the bride-price for virgins.”
Deuteronomy 7:3-4: “Do not intermarry with them. Do not give your daughters to their sons or take their daughters for your sons, for they will turn your sons away from following me to serve other gods, and the Lord’s anger will burn against you and will quickly destroy you.”
Anything short of banning divorce, premarital sex without immediate marriage afterwards and interfaith (arguably interracial) marriage is the philosophical equivalent of cherry-picking the Bible. As someone who is admittedly not a firm believer in the Bible, I’m okay with this. Again, it’s a question of where you draw the line. To generalize a majority of religiously-motivated people, here’s the line: premarital sex—not good, but not illegal; divorce—not good, but not illegal; interfaith marriage—not ideal, but not illegal; gay marriage— illegal.
In terms of the religious argument, my default is to return to the word “bigot.” Biblically proscribed heterosexual practices are okay, but those involving homosexuals are not. The religiously-backed line is and must be arbitrary, but must it preclude gay marriage?
Let’s look at another common argument: the slippery slope. Among the more amusing lines of argumentation to hear, this analysis contends that redefining the meaning of marriage to include homosexual couples opens the floodgates to legalizing pedophilia and bestiality. Although I disagree, I see the logic. But it bears asking, where is the original definition of marriage, and is there anything else we allow that might have already triggered that slippery slope? At our nation’s inception, marriage was a union between a white man and a white woman. It was not until Reconstruction (briefly), and then the aforementioned court case forty years ago (permanently), that we “opened the floodgates” by allowing interracial marriage. There, the line of acceptable practice moved, and we have not noticed a major shift since. Again, this was an arbitrary judgment based on valuing the social importance of civil liberties over the philosophical tenet that we should not alter the meaning of marriage. We redrew the line to include interracial marriage without allowing gay marriage, underage marriage or bestiality. We could have, but none of those positions seemed socially tenable. Recap: interracial marriage—fine, gay marriage—illegal.
This brings us to the ultimate, most important question. If it’s a logical truism that our restrictions on private sexuality are arbitrary, should this arbitrary line preclude gay marriage because it is socially harmful? I think this is where most of the debate ought to lie. I’m personally of the opinion that homosexual couples are doing no harm to society. Here are some points upon which I base this judgment.
1. Children of homosexual couples turn out almost exactly the same as those of heterosexual couples.
2. A broad consensus of major children’s health and welfare organizations oppose restrictions on gay marriage.
These are just two of many points that represent a pretty solid consensus that a consenting adult marrying another consenting adult of the same gender doesn’t hurt anyone. I personally believe that this wealth of evidence is convincing and perhaps even overwhelming. And that’s why my default response to opponents of gay marriage is to call them “bigots.” As established, the line is arbitrary. So if someone draws that line, in the face of strong evidence that it’s not a good idea, to preclude gays from marrying, I have to assume it’s based on raw prejudice. I see the counter-arguments, but I don’t find them compelling. If you can present me with some good ones beyond those which I’ve already outlined here, feel free to drop a comment. Until then, I’ll hop on my pinko commie high horse assume you’re an ass-backwards, narrow-minded backwoods bigot.
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December 5, 2008 2:23 am
BAW
In spite of the fact that you have branded me a “bigot” for my opinion, I’ll try to rationally explain.
The legal “slippery slope” that concerns me is not the one you mentioned. Loving v. Virginia did not re-define marriage but rather held unconstitutional laws which placed “race-based” legal restrictions on marriage. Gay marriage, however, would re-define marriage and the “slippery slope” involves the impact on centuries of family law.
I would not suggest that family law is perfect as it now stands but the confusion of adding gay marriages would make it less rather than more likely to improve.
I do not believe marriage is a “right” but rather a social (and religious) construct which gays are perfectly capable of accomplishing through civil unions. I would argue that a civil union or a “partnership agreement” could be established which would more appropriately define and establish a relationship which by it’s very nature has unique qualities.
Since you acknowledge the “unintelligible ire over Prop 8″ I would like to add that I find the attacks on the Mormon Church the most offensive display of ire imaginable. I’m not Mormon but I do know that polygamy was part of their way of life. I think at some point it was even considered part of their religion and yet they accepted monogamy as the law. If they had to accept established law, why don’t gays? And how dare gay activists attack the Mormons for supporting a law, they were forced to accept?
I don’t believe gay marriage has anything to do with gays wanting marriage. I agree with Greg Koukl: “Same-sex marriage is not about civil rights. It is about validation and social respect. It is a radical attempt at civil engineering using government muscle to strong-arm the people into accommodating a lifestyle many find deeply offensive, contrary to nature, socially destructive, and morally repugnant.”
I agree that everyone should have the same legal rights and I believe we have the laws today that make it so. But just as I believe women’s rights and minority right’s are established by law, I believe the “activists” in each group will never be satisfied and will never stop demanding something more. As a woman, I am offended by what “feminists” have come to represent. As a supporter of affirmative action, I am offended by the race hustlers who now represent the black community. As some one has some very special friends from the gay community for more than forty years, I am offended by the extremists who now seem to represent the gay community.
I don’t “tolerate” people who are different, I accept that they are different. I like or dislike people because I either like them or I don’t and as far as I know, I have never liked or disliked anyone solely based on their race, religion, national origin, sexual preference or whatever. I do, however, oppose legalizing same-sex marriage so I’m a bigot. I’ve been called worse.
Sorry, I felt less and less rational as I went.
December 6, 2008 6:48 pm
Alex Chen
This addresses only a minor portion of what was discussed in the article and previous comments:
To my knowledge, the legal definition of marriage is merely one of classifications under the law. Married couples are granted certain tax breaks, their matters are dealt with in a certain manner when they are divorce, etc. Proponents of civil unions have hit upon something that hasn’t been very much discussed: our notions of marriage are very much affected by religion, but the legal view of marriage is essentially that of a civil union.
Under the Constitution, the church is supposed to be separate from the state. Since marriage is such a religious belief, keep it in that domain. Lawfully, every currently married couple should be instead declared within a civil union. The decision to grant status of marriage should be left to the couple itself or to a religious authority.
This removes the issue of “separate but equal,” and restores the religious connotation of marriage. It’s unlikely to happen, but think about what it would mean.
December 15, 2008 2:18 pm
BAW
Oh, yeah these are really nice, rational people. Attack and try to destroy a friend because they disagree with you.
http://www.latimes.com/news/la-me-lopez14-2008dec14,0,5418682,full.column
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